Interview
We Can Save Ourselves From Diseases With Healthy Diet – Maggie Ogunbanwo
Published
4 years agoon
Mrs Maggie Ogunbanwo is a Nigerian resident in the United Kingdom. She has spent decades in the food business abroad and she has written a book, The Melting Pot, on her experience.
In this New Times’ interview with Ogunbanwo, she talks about her book and experience in the food industry that has made her know that food is a powerful tool not only in pulling down ethnic and racial barriers but also in securing good health. Excerpts:
A little bit background of yourself?
I run a company that does the production of African food products. By that I mean we make our spices, sauces and then we support other African businesses that are up and coming. Last year, I also became the member of board, Food and Drink Welsh Industry board and I became a member and one of the things that drive my membership is supporting diversity, increasing diversity in Wales. It is a government appointment to increase diversity in the board so before that what I did was to approach the board, when the BLM was raging everyone was looking for an avenue to speak.
I approached the Welsh government food division and ask, can we support the Black and ethnic minority in Wales because we have a lot to give? They threw it back at me that I should make a proposal and see where we go from there. I made a proposal back to the food and drink board to the Welsh government and as part of the proposal we were going to have a really big launch before COVID-19 and we are going to launch with the Cookrey book and with food products and different producers who contributed to the book with then, showcase their product and talk about their stories being black in the society .
That is how the book came about. The book covers the black and ethnic minority, so because I’m in the editor and Nigerian I’ve most but it is not only about Nigerian recipes, we have Zimbabwean, Jamaican as far as it is minority. It is to showcase what migrants can do in their community and the book is a means to bring communities together. One of the things the minority does is when we get to a place we share our food or invite people to share food because once we break bread together we talk about things. This book is to break barriers, get us to have conversations through food and to make the Welsh government understand the role of black and ethnic minority.
How long has the company existed?
We existed in different forms since 1997, so we started as a catering business but that wasn’t in Wales. In Wales we have been going as a production company since 2016 called MaggiesAfrican Twist
What inspired you to write the book?
I was discussing with someone on having a show, showcasing the food from minority ethnic group. I told the person I’ve always wanted to write a cookery book forever. so the person gave me the details of a publisher. I was very excited about writing a book and writing it with people . We wanted to showcase Welsh food, what there is in diaspora and among ethnic minority. There are 30 recipes here but it is a 160-page book. Partly the publisher inspired that. People only know the recipe of where they grew up. I started cooking for people in the UK. I decided to showcase food from all over Africa.
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Should we expect new books?
Yes, because we are talking about making a series of about four to six books.
How did you develop interest in food and cooking?
I’ve been an entrepreneur since I was six-years-old. I went to school at Ebute Metta and I remember my grandma used to make puff puff and I would sell mine because I thought it was the best puff puff around. I lived around food, my mother, my grandmother always cooked food. They were carteres, I have not always wanted to cook food and sell, I have wanted to produce food, African food and present it in such a way that those outside Africa will see it and want to buy it and that’s what partly drives me.
I just don’t want people to talk about African cooking on world stage. I had a mother and grandmother who were great cook and I have a gift and mine is around food and food products and understanding how they work together. We have loads of produce, spices in Nigeria and Africa that have not been utilised. it is my aim to use them.
Do you think food can bring people together ?
This is why I put this proposal across. if people sit down and eat together they are less likely to fight. When I sit down and eat with you, we can talk baut anything really and then those barriers people have, you see food break those barriers.
Do you have customers that are not minorities?
My customers are not minorities alone. I do not aim my services at just the minorities . In fact, they are just getting to know Maggies Aafrican Twist. My aim is to reach the indigenous people where I live. So my customers are well around the UK, outside the UK.
We also aim the African recipe to be acceptable globally. The book is showcasing us far and wide.
How do you ensure that food is healthy for consumption?
I’ve been cooking and involved with food for years and I would say that over the years, what is healthy depends on what the trend is. It is important people eat balanced meals. People should eat wholesome meals depending on where they are. A balanced meal includes different elements that we know. But what I understand is that depending on where you are and how much energy you are using your balanced meal might be different from another person’s balanced meal. So any food people are eating should have all the different elements.
One of the things I say is do not eat a lot of sweet things but it depends. if you are using so much energy and working on …..because I understand food, I am food safety trainer. I am certainly not one who says don’t eat fat or carbohydrates too much….there’s so much goodness in our African food. We have a lot of vegetables, if we eat our food more from the natural sources, that for me is how to ensure the food is healthy.
How do you source your ingredients, raw materials for production?
It is a global world, it is easy to get any ingredient that you want online. One of the recipes that we showcase here was something from Cuba but we were able to find it online. basically we source our ingredients where we can and wherever it is cheaper.
How expensive are African foods in the UK?
If we are comparing it with the food in Nigeria, if you live in Nigeria and you want to start comparing the prices of Nigerian food in Nigeria and Nigerian food abroad, of course you say it is expensive. In relation to where people live, I think African food is accessible as any other food in the UK. There was a time it was very difficult to get the food but that’s no longer the issue. African food is accessible.
Can you say that cooking for English people is a big business?
Yes. Certainly it is, whenever people come from their countries to new places, at least my experience in the UK is that before they can settle to do anything, many people find out that it is easy to start cooking and selling that food. I think there is a lot of potential in food and drink industry.
Do you see linkage in diet and some sort of diseases?
I totally do based on my experience growing in Nigeria and being abroad. At the time we were growing, we didn’t have too many lifestyle diseases. We did not have a lot of diabetes as much as we have now and what I recognise now is that the way we eat now have completely changed. Talking about Nigeria, you make fresh soup everyday, buy fresh things everyday. When I came back years ago, I saw people going to Shoprite to buy food that was prepared . We have changed how we eat and that is something that is more obvious in the UK.
I do think that what we eat and how we eat them and quantity we eat them have a lot to do with lifestyle diseases. If we eat food as pure as we get it and eat it in the quantity we need we will have less of diseases we have now. The book we have here is about cooking with fresh ingredients and a lot of minority’s foods are cooked from the fresh ingredients and that has a lot do with lifestyle diseases.
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How A Dull Student Graduated From University With A First-class Degree
Published
6 months agoon
June 18, 2024How do you feel after making a first-class degree from the Nasarawa State University?
I feel very elated, in fact it’s a dream come true. At the time I got admission into Nasarawa State University Keffi, a lot of students tried to discourage me, including some of my course mates for being too serious with my academics, some of them even said “nobody will give you first class”. But after my first semester result at 100 level came out, I had 4.30/5.0. This was the moment that changed everything, I realized it was a goal possible to attain only if I put in more effort and work smarter. At the 200 level first semester, I already had a first class CGPA of 4.53, so I just kept on with the tempo. Although faced with so many challenges, at the end graduated as the best student in my department with a CGPA of 4.59
What are you doing currently?
Currently, l’m serving my father’s land under the umbrella of the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC). It’s a privilege to serve, I must say and I’m using this opportunity to impact the students at my PPA and ensuring they get the best education in both practical and theoretical aspects of their studies.
Judging by your name Emmanuel Edirin Onomuakpokpo, you are obviously from Delta State in the South-south. Why did you leave all the universities in the South-south to attend Nasarawa State University?
After I wrote my first JAMB in 2017, Delta State University, Abraka (DELSU) was the first school to which I applied. My dad wanted me to go for medicine but unfortunately I applied for medical biochemistry instead because I didn’t hit the cut-off mark for medicine in my JAMB. However, I had 98/100 in their Post-UTME exam but yet was not given admission to study medical biochemistry. I could remember crying my eyes out that year, seeing my friends whom we graduated from secondary school together gaining admission to universities, I never wanted to sit at home doing nothing. May be it was actually God’s plan not to get admission then because medicine was never something I envisaged for myself. My drive had always been agriculture because I have always loved the idea of growing food and feeding the nation as a kid. So, studying an agricultural discipline would be to me a fullfiment of that dream. The next year 2018, thanks to Engr. Uzoma Kenneth .K, a neighbour of ours at the time and a family friend who introduced me to the concept of agricultural biotechnology, he told me this was the future of modern agriculture and encouraged me to focus my attention there since I already had interest in agriculture. So that very year I researched schools that offer this course, to the best of my knowledge Nasarawa State University Keffi was the closest I could find. Proximity to the university was another advantage to me since we resided in Nasarawa State. These and many other factors contributed to me leaving all the universities in the South and studying at the prestigious Nasarawa State University, Keffi.
What inspired you to attain that academic height?
Let me cut the long story short. I wasn’t always this brilliant and intelligent. There was a time I was called dull by my principal when I was in primary school. I struggled with my academics so much that my principal had to advise my mum to change my school because he couldn’t help my situation. This made my mum cry so much and I could feel her pains. After my mum agreed to change my school, I was repeated and had to be in the same class with my younger sister at the time. The moment I will never forget was one fateful morning, I was seated at the back sit of the class writing my exams, I think English Language, as I was focused on my paper suddenly I heard my name Emmanuel!! with a thunderous and aggressive voice, when I raised my head up it was my quantitative reasoning teacher Mr. Haruna. I will never forget his name. He called me out to the front of the class, and without first telling me the crime I had committed, he gave me a dirty slap. After which in an angry tone, he told me I failed his quantitative reasoning exam, that I had 16/70. I held my face with my hands, because I was very fair, the marks of his hands were visible on my face. I went home that day with that trauma and anger and told myself that never again would I be humiliated because of my academic performance. I didn’t just tell myself out of emotion, I backed it up with actions. Nobody was telling me to read my books, I told myself, I stopped playing too much and I began focusing on my books. The next term after the previous one the incident happened, I came second in class. This made my mum so happy . My dad was in Benin at the time, he had to send a bicycle for me as his present to show his appreciation of my performance. I was happy with myself too. From then on, there was this consciousness I woke up to that ignited my desire to become the best in everything I do. I was also inspired by my dad’s academic performance, Mr. Augustine A. Onomuakpokpo. He graduated with a second class upper. At the time I got into the university I told him I was going to beat his results. He challenged me to it and now I guess I won, all glory be to God.
Did you envisage coming out of the university with that class of degree?
At first I envisaged graduating with a good grade, maybe second-class upper degree. But after my first semester result at the 100 level, I took a pen and wrote on a sheet of paper “l’m a First-class Plant Biotechnologist” and pasted it on my wall in my room. At this point I knew it was possible and waking up everyday to the writing on my wall, I became restless and heavy each time I missed out on my reading timetable because the man on the wall was the only thing I could see.
What were the challenges you faced and how did you overcome them?
The challenges were numerous but the most daunting one was the issue of balancing my academic life, social life and spiritual life. I had to find a way to be active in all. To surmount the issue of socialization, when I got into the university at the 100 level, because of how pro-active I was in all things pertaining to student welfarism, I was made the course representative. This exposed me to interacting with students from different backgrounds, cultures and traditions. I had to develop leadership skills, listening skills and attentiveness to be able to shoulder the responsibilities of being a course rep and secretary general of the department. I was also very active in religious activities. During the 100 level second semester, I discovered that from 100 – 400 levels, there was no group dedicated to actively putting my school especially my department in prayers, so I formed one and congregated students to intercede for the department. I believe our prayers worked and God helped us. Although I was engaged with all these activities, I also ensured that only 20% of my time was given to them and 80% of the time, I was always on my books.
How did your lecturers support you ?
I wouldn’t have achieved this great feat without the help of my lecturers. At this point, I’m proud to call them my mentors. They include Dr. Bello Abdulkarim, Dr. Muhammad Hassan Sani Loko and my very unquantifiably supportive supervisor Prof. J. C. Onovo. They saw the potential I was carrying, and they drew me close like a father would a son and constantly fed me with words of encouragement. Dr. Bello Abdulkarim and Dr. Muhammad Hassan Sani Loko would always admonish me and call me to order when they noticed I had derailed. University is a place filled with so many distractions, sometimes we may get carried away by activities forgetting the very reason why we are there. Having people like these was a blessing to me and I’m proud to say these were the people that encouraged me and pushed me beyond my self to bring out academic excellence in me.
What is your plan after your youth service?
My plan after my youth service is to get a fully funded scholarship in Canada, USA or Europe, to further my academic career in order to gain advanced knowledge in scientific research especially in the area of biotechnology, genome sequencing, environmental conservation, plant breeding and genetics, and bio-resource engineering. So that with the scientific skills acquired from this programme, I would be able to positively impact the Nigeria agricultural sector and the world at large, to help combat the issue of food insecurity and to proffer solutions to plant-related issues using biotechnology.
What advice do you have for students who desire to graduate with a first-class degree?
My advice is simple, make your academics your priority and exclude unnecessary distractions and put God first. Have a CGPA goal for each semester and remember each time you fail is an opportunity to reinvent yourself to do better the next time you try.
Interview
Toyin Falola Interviews To Hold Panel Discussion On Languages And Archives In Knowledge Reproduction About Africa
Published
11 months agoon
February 8, 2024The Toyin Falola Interviews has scheduled a discussion with distinguished panelists, Professors Ngom Fallou, Ghirmai Negash, Abiodun Salawu, and John Mugane, who will be sharing their expertise on “Languages and Archives in Knowledge Production About Africa”.
Sunday, March 3, 2024
5 PM Nigeria
10 AM Austin
Register and Watch:
https://www.tfinterviews.com/post/Languages
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By Toyin Falola
Of all the things that have happened to the African continent in the past decades, the growth and expansion of Christianity and Islam have been one of the most impressive. This deep commitment to faith is not totally removed from the natural gravitation toward hope and positivity. Against the background of declining opportunities, many Africans have found solace in religion and the promise of a better life. If things don’t work well on Earth, the afterlife offers more than a promise.
Within the enormous growth of Christianity in Africa has been the steady rise in the popularity and expansion of Pentecostalism. The socio-economic, religious, and political nuances of the rise of Pentecostalism will be one of the subjects of the Interview with a preeminent figure, Apostle Professor Opoku Onyinah, on February 4, 2024.
Pentecostalism on the African continent dates to the early 20th century, with the earliest movements such as the Apostolic Faith Mission, Assemblies of God, the Pentecostal Zionist Movement (all in South Africa), l’Église Harriste (in Côte d’Ivoire), Christ Apostolic Church, morphing from Precious Stone Society, and the Apostolic Church (all in Nigeria). Some would argue that I may be confusing some of these churches with latter-day Pentecostal ones.
Pentecostalism took off during the colonial era, heavily influenced by the American Pentecostals, including but not limited to William Seymour (who wrote the Apostolic Faith newspaper that sparked the influx of Pentecostalism into the continent), Lucy Farrow, Paul Marty, and Julia Hutchins. Like all successful expansions in history, the Pentecostalist movement came to Africa at a time when the environment was fertile for its growth. Some would also argue that Pentecostalism was homegrown.
The African people were subjected to colonialism, and in seeking a way out, they found hope in the core ideals of the new movement — grace, salvation, an afterlife, spiritual empowerment through the Holy Ghost, healing, and wonders — promises that held liberation for the people and freedom from the shackles of the second-class citizenship that colonialism offered them on their soil.
The case has often been made in favour of classifying religion as a social concept. This classification does not seek to discredit the divinity that any of the religions claim. However, it is a way to argue that religions belong in the human society, by humans; as much as cultures and civilizations belong to the human society. A point of note in the argument for the classification of religion as a social concept is religious syncretism. Just like any other human social phenomenon capable of influencing and being influenced by other phenomena, religions and religious denominations and factions influence and get influenced by other religions and religious denominations, and Pentecostalism is not an exception.
Pentecostalism has witnessed several cultural adaptations and syncretism. Religious worship among Christians is subjected to personal perceptions and subjective interpretations of the divine. A Christian can only offer worship in the best way he can conceive in his mind who his Creator is. He can imagine the wonders of the Creator. Therefore, as the Pentecostalism movement grew in popularity across and spread across the African continent, it was influenced by several indigenous African belief systems and practices.
The result has been a dynamic interplay of Pentecostal Christianity with traditional African spirituality, giving rise to unique, Afrocentric expressions of faith. One of these unique, Afrocentric expressions of faith is the upbeat mode of religious worship among Pentecostal churches. This upbeat mode reflects vibrant and lively music, energetic dancing, loud prayer sessions, and an insurmountable belief in the intervention of divine forces in terrestrial affairs.
Furthermore, the communal nature of African societies, influencing the people’s strong belief in and connection to their ancestral heritage, has made the belief in and war against ancestral curses, “village people”, and witchcraft popular elements in the Pentecostalism practised in the African continent. From the earliest years, prayers of war against witches, wizards, and enemies formed an integral part of churches such as the Christ Apostolic Church and even served as one of the biggest factors in the swift growth and expansion of African Pentecostal churches.
I stated above that Pentecostalism has been one of the fastest-growing phenomena on the African continent. However, it is vital to note that Pentecostalism’s growth has not only been about the founding of several churches and the expansion of such churches across Africa and other continents. Beyond its spiritual dimensions, Pentecostalism has highly influenced the social landscape in Africa. The swift growth and expansion of Pentecostal churches, the construction of mega-church buildings, and the management of several church-owned operations have also meant that these churches have become large employers of labour, with thousands of members earning their living through church operations. Some of these large Pentecostal churches own printing presses, primary schools, secondary schools, and universities — some of which have gone on to be ranked among the best institutions on the continent.
These large-scale operations have afforded people access to education and employment, two of the most critical elements in any society. Furthermore, donation and support outreaches are an integral part of the existence of many of these churches. There is no denying the level of influence Pentecostal churches wield in society, from the grassroots to the elite strata, especially as their large sizes mean they can always boast of members in every industry and at every level. The brotherhood approach of these Pentecostal churches means members are quick to identify and help each other. This, often called “being favoured”, is a case where members of mega Pentecostal churches belonging to the elite strata of society find placement for their fellow church members at government parastatals and institutions, multi-national companies, and other companies.
The founding of mega Pentecostal churches and the construction of grand worship centres have also been instrumental in the construction of healthcare centres, road networks, and housing structures. Furthermore, several African Pentecostal churches have been involved in the organization of large-scale empowerment programs, especially for women and youth, and community development initiatives, including serving as pressure groups to influence government policies.
In saying that Pentecostalism in Africa has experienced immense growth, I am also saying that while globalization has become increasingly realistic with the increased connectivity of people across the globe, Pentecostal churches in Africa have tapped into the advantages of technology to bring their operations to a global audience. Several Pentecostal African churches — such as The Redeemed Christian Church of God, the Christ Apostolic Church, The Apostolic Church, United Family International, Church Doxa Deo, CRC Church, the Living Faith Church, Deeper Life Bible Church, and the Church of Pentecost — have established a global presence spanning hundreds of countries, influencing the diaspora community, and contributing to the global Pentecostal movement.
The introduction of satellite television networks played a crucial role in the expansion of African Pentecostal churches into the diaspora. As members of these African churches relocated to other countries, they sought the need to continue in fellowship with their churches and founded branches in their new locations, getting an easy connection to the headquarters through the internet, satellite television, and transnational networks. African Pentecostal churches in the diaspora do not only impact global Christianity, but they also play an unmistakable role in the shaping of the religious experiences of the African diaspora, serving as a haven and a new family for new immigrants and positioning as centres of cultural preservation, spiritual solace, and community building.
Although there has been immense growth and expansion within the Pentecostal movement in Africa — with an undeniable socio-economic impact — there are deeds and developments among Pentecostal churches on the continent that leave room for criticism and questions.
To properly explore Pentecostalism in Africa, it is vital to examine some of the critiques that have been levelled against Pentecostal churches on the continent. The first and perhaps biggest concern that has been brought up in the wake of the growth of Pentecostalism has been the commercialization of spirituality, a phenomenon that has manifested itself through several dimensions. There have been cases of churches categorizing spiritual problems and assigning financial costs to each category for members seeking deliverance.
There has also been an emphasis on tithes, offerings, and giving back to the church, sometimes overly emphasized at the detriment of the giver, who may not be financially buoyant but must succumb to the pressure and belief in the promises of manifold blessings and the multiple returns on every token given for every token given.
Several Pentecostal churches in Africa promote the prosperity gospel, which has seen their leaders rank among some of the wealthiest spiritual leaders in the world. The theological concepts of the prosperity gospel emphasize material wealth as a sign of God’s favour, sometimes elevated as the core of a church’s message, thereby ignoring the possibility of members seeking wealth, including through financial misappropriation, fraud, embezzlement, and other crimes.
Over the years, doctrinal controversies have also rocked the Pentecostal movement in Africa, sometimes threatening to disrupt the movement and tear it asunder. Although Pentecostal churches on the continent share some common beliefs revolving around salvation through grace, healing, and some other concepts, there are stark differences in some of their doctrines, with some churches accusing others of peddling heresy. The doctrinal divergence in the African Pentecostal movement has sparked theological debates, including spiritual gifts, speaking in tongues, the role of women in the church, and what constitutes holiness.
Pentecostalism in Africa has come a long way, and by all indications, it shows the potential to grow in leaps and bounds. It is, therefore, with utmost pleasure that I invite you to join us on the next edition of The Toyin Falola Interviews, where we will host Apostle Professor Onyinah — a scholar of excellence and a leading theologian in the field of African Pentecostalism.
Sunday, February 4, 2024
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4:00 PM Ghana
10:00 AM Austin CST
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https://www.tfinterviews.com/post/opokuonyinah
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